Athletics & Phillies
Submitted by: Jack_S
Athletics
| Name | Age | Level | P1 | P2 | Availability | Years | AFV | Salary | Surplus | Low | Median | High |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mick Abel | Minors | RHP | 28.2 | 22.6 | 28.2 | 33.8 | ||||||
| Alec Bohm | 25 | Majors | 3B | Low | 5 | 23.2 | 7.3 | 15.9 | 12.7 | 15.9 | 19.1 | |
| Logan O'Hoppe | Minors | C | 8.5 | 6.8 | 8.5 | 10.2 | ||||||
| Matt Vierling | 24 | Majors | OF | Medium | 6 | 20.8 | 12.1 | 8.7 | 7 | 8.7 | 10.4 |
Total Value:
61.3
Phillies
| Name | Age | Level | P1 | P2 | Availability | Years | AFV | Salary | Surplus | Low | Median | High |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ramon Laureano | 26 | Majors | OF | Medium | 4 | 84.3 | 23.8 | 60.5 | 48.4 | 60.5 | 72.6 | |
| Chad Pinder | 29 | Majors | OF | UTIL | Medium | 1 | 3.8 | 2.8 | 1 | 0.7 | 1 | 1.3 |
Total Value:
61.5
Comments
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I gave Phillies a down vote because I don’t think they move Abel, but if they are willing to move him I’d give it a thumbs up for both teams
I tend to think Oakland won’t move Laureano unless they get MLB pitching in return, but the combination of young major-league level position player talent and Abel’s potential forces them to reconsider. Bohm is a post-hype reclamation project who fits either as a multi-positional righty bat or a Chapman replacement at 3B. O’Hoppe fills a positional weakness in the organization, allowing Soderstrom to potentially move out from behind the plate. Vierling is ready for big league action now and takes OF bats lost from Laureano and Pinder’s departures. Philly parts with a lot of talent, though most of it from positions of strength, but grabs a cheap controllable stud in Laureano, along with a useful multi-positional piece in Pinder.
Down vote for Oakland. Everyone knows the A's don't use 1st round picks on HS pitchers like Abel but they also don't trade for former HS guys until they have a lot of pro experience. I just don't see Oakland breaking that streak this offseason, especially as the centerpiece for Laureano.
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Yeah, considered that but used AJ Cole and Jesus Luzardo as past precedents for this (and to a lesser extent, Brett Anderson in the Dan Haren deal). Admittedly, Laureano is much more valuable than either the Doolittle/Madson combo or Gio Gonzalez, but those are examples of trades where the A’s targeted HS arms with very little experience. The other pieces in the deal are very much Oakland-type targets: high-minors performers
They're also examples of guys who weren't the clear centerpiece of the deals they were involved in and in the case of Anderson and Cole, both had at least a full season in the minors before getting traded. Cole had 90 IP on his resume, Anderson 120 IP before they were traded. Peacock and Norris were at least equals, if not ahead of, AJ Cole in terms of trade value. Anderson came over with Carlos Gonzalez (and a host of others). Luzardo had the least experience, perhaps the highest ceiling (although it was muted because he was still recovering from TJS), and Oakland shipped him out 6 months ago. He came over with Neuse and Treinen for two relief pitchers with age and health questions. Abel has 44 pro innings to his name and makes up half the value of this very expensive deal. It would be a titanic shift in organizational philosophy and I don't think this offseason is when they make that sort of change.